• Ep. 211: BANKS on Art, Self, and the Long Game
    May 27 2025

    Today’s guest is an artist whose voice cuts through like a blade—sharp, emotional, and unforgettable. Emerging from the shadows of alternative R&B and electro-pop, she’s crafted a sonic identity that’s both intimate and cinematic. Her lyrics are deeply confessional, fearless in their vulnerability, and her production choices push boundaries while staying rooted in undeniable emotion. From viral beginnings to critical acclaim, she’s stayed true to her vision, building an aesthetic that’s dark, empowering, and always evolving. All the way from Los Angeles, California—this is the sound of raw artistry at its finest. And the writer is… BANKS!



    00:00 - Intro

    01:07 - Growing Up in L.A.

    03:52 - Music as Math?

    06:16 - 100% Songs, No Concept First

    08:08 - First Song Became a Jack Collab

    10:04 - Social Anxiety + Going Out Hard

    12:06 - Fans, Fame & Divine Feminine Energy

    15:41 - Jillian vs. BANKS

    18:10 - Stage Fright to Frontwoman

    21:13 - Regrets & Album Titles That Got Away

    22:28 - Streaming Era Beginnings

    27:02 - Indie Artist Real Talk

    31:12 - Viral Hits vs. Tour Culture

    34:09 - “Don’t Try To Write a Hit”

    36:04 - Underrated BANKS Songs

    38:05 - Why This Album, Why Now

    39:28 - How “I Hate Your Ex” Happened

    41:24 - Voice as a Shape-Shifter

    42:02 - Collaboration Energy Shift

    43:03 - Studio Magic Stories

    44:14 - Writing for Other Artists?

    46:18 - Why Artists Look to BANKS

    48:06 - 3 Life-Changing Decisions

    49:40 - Five-for-Five Lightning Round

    53:08 - Music + Visuals Are One

    54:16 - Ross on BANKS’ Legacy


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    56 mins
  • Ep. 210: Jon Bellion | Choosing Art Over Algorithm
    May 13 2025

    Today’s guest is one of the most original minds in modern music—a genre-defying powerhouse who returns to this podcast six years after his first unforgettable visit. Hailing from Long Island, this producer, performer, and lyrical architect has built a sonic universe entirely his own. He’s the mastermind behind cinematic pop records that blur the line between the underground and the mainstream, with a resume that spans from crafting platinum hits for chart-toppers to delivering soul-baring solo projects that redefine authenticity. Now a father of three, his creativity has only deepened, as he balances vulnerability and virtuosity with relentless hustle. He’s not just a hitmaker—he’s a visionary, a builder, and a storyteller for a generation that craves depth. And the writer is… Jon Bellion!


    Episode Timestamps:


    0:00 Bellion’s Return & Industry Fire

    0:36 Ross ATWI Intro

    2:05 Supporting Songwriters’ Rights

    2:41 Jon Bellion Returns After 6 Years

    3:56 Jon vs. the Algorithm

    6:56 AI, Effort & Meaning

    9:22 Craft Over Convenience

    11:57 Identity, Process & Philosophy

    18:21 Credit, Ego & Industry Power

    25:32 Sponsor Message from NMPA

    27:09 Staying Dangerous with Purpose

    32:06 Becoming the Label

    45:07 Removing Ego from the Process

    50:41 Returning to Joy in Creation

    54:58 Art vs. Math in Production

    57:23 Hits Beyond the U.S.

    1:05:16 On Raising Creative Kids

    1:07:52 Jon's Words of Advice to His Younger Self

    1:18:06 Grief, Healing & Writing Through Loss

    1:22:32 What Success Really Means in 2025

    1:25:00 Writing vs. Recognition

    1:47:58 ATWI Credits & Closing Reflections

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    1 hr and 47 mins
  • Ep. 209: d4vd | The Kid Hacking Pop Music From His Phone
    May 5 2025

    Today’s guest is a genre-shifting phenomenon who’s redefining what it means to break through in music today. With a sound that fuses indie, alt-pop, R&B, and emo influences, he’s crafted a raw, emotionally charged catalog that’s connected with a generation—and he did it all from his sister’s closet on a phone. In just a few years, his music has racked up billions of streams, topping global charts and earning him a fiercely loyal fanbase. But beyond the numbers, he’s an artist who leads with vulnerability, reshaping how young creators think about art, success, and authenticity. He’s not just making songs—he’s shifting culture, and sharing how at the same time.

    And the writer is… D4vd!


    0:00 Trailer Hook — Billion Streams Surprise

    1:32 Intro — From Phone to Playlist

    3:15 Growing Up — Early Life and Music Influences

    8:45 First Uploads — BandLab, YouTube, and Finding His Sound

    13:20 Going Viral — The Moment Everything Changed

    17:50 Pressure and Expectations — How He Handled the Blow-Up

    20:42 My Process — How I Make Music on a Phone

    23:10 Behind the Hits — How ‘Here With Me’ + ‘Romantic Homicide’ Happened

    26:17 What SZA Told Me That Changed Everything

    34:08 Advice for Young Artists — Make Music Nobody Wants

    36:09 Beyond Music — Directing, Acting, Manga Dreams

    43:35 Disrupting the Industry — Freaking Out the Business

    44:40 Validation Moment — Sitting Where Legends Sit






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    45 mins
  • Ep. 208: Edgar Barrera | The Max Martin of Latin Music
    Apr 28 2025

    Today’s guest is a Latin music powerhouse whose pen has changed the game globally. With a genre-defying catalog that spans regional Mexican, reggaeton, pop, and bachata, he’s crafted chart-topping hits that cross borders and break records. His work has earned him 26 Grammy wins, making him one of the most decorated writers in the industry today. But beyond the accolades, he’s a true musical chameleon—effortlessly fusing cultural roots with modern sounds to create melodies that resonate worldwide. He brings heart, hustle, and authenticity to everything he touches.

    And the writer is… Edgar Barrera!


    00:00 Intro: 27 Grammys and Counting

    02:00 Growing Up on the Texas-Mexico Border

    07:30 Breaking Tradition in Latin Music

    10:30 Globalizing Regional Mexican Music

    16:00 Teaching Writers to Own Their Publishing

    20:00 The Business of Songwriting

    30:00 Writing for the Next Generation

    34:00 Patience Over Virality

    38:00 How Maluma Changed My Career

    44:00 The Difference Between LA and Miami Studios

    48:00 Why Shakira Is a Studio Perfectionist

    53:00 Watching Ariana Grande Record a Perfect Take

    57:00 Meeting Max Martin (And Getting Starstruck)

    65:00 Dreaming Beyond Latin Music

    70:00 The Real Peso Pluma Story

    75:00 Loving Music Beyond Awards

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    1 hr and 20 mins
  • Ep. 207: D'Mile | From a Crammed Apartment to The Sound of a Generation, Silk Sonic, and more
    Apr 21 2025

    Today’s guest is the mastermind behind some of the most captivating sounds in modern R&B and pop. With an ear for creating melodies that feel as intimate as they do expansive, he’s responsible for shaping hits that make you feel everything from joy to heartbreak. Whether he's behind the boards or penning the perfect lyrics, his ability to blend vulnerability with irresistible hooks has made him a go-to collaborator for some of the biggest names in music. From soulful ballads to undeniable bangers, his tracks are the ones that never leave your head—and always leave you wanting more.


    And the producer and songwriter is...Dernst "D'Mile" Emile II!


    00:00 - Cold Open: Gaga, Bruno & a Midnight Session

    00:28 - Intro: Welcome to And The Writer Is

    01:22 - How D’Mile Got His Name

    05:10 - Growing Up with Jazz, Gospel & Biggie

    10:30 - Producing His First Song at Age 6

    12:15 - Almost Signed to Universal at 19

    16:45 - Rodney Jerkins & Darkchild Studio Era

    21:05 - 9 Creatives in a 3-Bedroom Apartment

    25:30 - Inspiration vs. Competition in the Come-Up

    27:20 - D’Mile Nearly Quit Music in 2017

    34:17 - The Comeback: Lucky Daye & Victoria Monét

    38:16 - How Silk Sonic Started from One Song

    46:44 - Making “Leave the Door Open”

    50:18 - “Die With A Smile” feat. Gaga & Bruno

    51:58 - Producing the Artist’s Soul

    59:00 - Copy-Paste Industry vs. Timeless Records

    01:01:08 - Final Thoughts: Doing It His Way

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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Ep. 206: Teddy Swims | The Power of Self Belief, and Everything I Learned The Hard Way
    Apr 7 2025

    Today’s guest is a genre-defying vocal powerhouse who’s been taking the music world by storm. Raised in the South with a love for soul, country, R&B, and rock, he blended these influences into an unmistakable style that’s all his own. With a voice that’s as powerful as it is emotive, he doesn’t just sing—he connects, turning raw, soulful covers into hits and proving he’s more than just a voice. He’s a true artist and songwriter who’s crafted songs about love, loss, and everything in between, resonating with millions around the world. Oh, and did we mention he’s one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet? If you haven’t heard his music yet, trust us, you’ll want to.


    And the writer is... Teddy Swims


    Timestamp | Chapter Title

    00:00 | Quick Message from Our Sponsor

    01:43 | Meet Your Host: Ross Golan

    02:39 | Teddy Swims: From Georgia to Global

    03:30 | Leaving Football Behind for Music

    08:00 | Finding His Voice Through Theater

    12:30 | Tattoos, Identity, and Early Reinvention

    17:00 | First Bands, Bad Songs, and Growing Up

    21:50 | Sponsor Break

    22:00 | The Dark Side of Touring and Mental Health

    26:30 | Why Teddy Started Therapy (and How It Changed Him)

    31:00 | Songwriting Camps, Magic, and the "Elf Theory"

    35:30 | How Teddy Learned to Choose Songs Like a Pro

    40:00 | The Origin of "Teddy Swims" (and a Crazy Early Tour)

    44:00 | How Covers Blew Up Teddy’s Career During the Pandemic

    47:00 | Signing with Warner: Building a Real Career

    50:00 | Losing Faith, Rebuilding, and Finding His Sound

    53:00 | Breaking Out with "Lose Control"

    56:00 | What It Takes to Really Make It (Lessons Learned)

    58:00 | 5 for 5: Teddy Swims Rapid Fire Q&A

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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • Ep. 205: Sung Cho of Chartmetric
    Mar 21 2025

    We’re excited to announce a special bonus interview with Sung Cho, the CEO & Founder of our incredible sponsor, Chartmetric. Ross recently sat down with Sung to discuss how his company is building the world’s best analytics team in the music industry. Read below to find out more about Chartmetric and listen to this conversation on any platform you find your podcasts!


    Chartmetric is the all-in-one platform for artists and music industry professionals, providing comprehensive streaming, social, and audience data. Since 2016, Chartmetric has strived to ensure everyone can have a successful career in music. Their easy-to-understand and powerful analytics on over 10 million artists and 100 million tracks will help answer all of your questions, from tracking your stats to discovering new talents. From playlist placements to stream counts to follower demographics and much more, it’s never been easier to understand how your artists fit in the music industry, and how they can grow. What’s even better is that Chartmetric does the work for you, providing actionable insights and beautiful visuals on their up-to-date global data from over 15 different social and streaming platforms. Find out more at chartmetric.com!

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    16 mins
  • Ep. 204: Wiz Khalifa
    Jan 21 2025

    Today’s guest is a true jack-of-all-trades—part artist, part entrepreneur, and full-on icon. From nurturing a die-hard fanbase to dominating the charts across genres, he’s built an empire over the course of his incredible career. This diamond certified superstar is the pride of Pittsburgh and has proven time and time again that you can do it all—and do it well.


    And The Writer Is…Wiz Khalifa!

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    1 hr and 2 mins