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Ever wonder what it actually feels like to grow up as a pastor’s kid when everyone’s watching? We brought two PKs into the studio for an unfiltered, funny, and surprisingly tender look at pressure, stereotypes, and the kind of faith that only makes sense when you’ve seen it change someone you love. From teachers threatening to “message your dad” to the myth that “PKs are the worst,” they name the weight—then show how real transformation at home keeps hope alive when church culture disappoints.
We also get honest about the cost of ministry on families. Weddings, funerals, hospital visits, and Sunday logistics don’t pause when kids need time with dad. We talk about boundaries that actually work, why “Can this wait?” is a holy sentence, and the pastoral promise we cling to: the church should not move forward while our families move backward. There’s nuance here—calling is worth it, lives change, tears are real—and small rituals like movie night, shared lunches, and inviting kids into the day-to-day can help restore what the schedule steals.
Along the way we lighten the room with a “That’s What’s Up” round: fluffernutter discoveries, a dystopian audiobook dive, Marvel rewatches and MCU origins, hoops tryouts, game builds, and an animated film watch list. A spirited GOAT debate breaks out—efficiency, eras, and why context matters—proving that healthy ministry homes can argue sports, laugh hard, and still circle back to the heart.
If you’ve felt unseen expectations, wrestled with doubt, or wondered how to support your pastors without burning them out, this conversation will meet you where you are. Listen, share with a friend who needs it, and tell us: where should leaders draw the line to keep family first? Subscribe, rate the show, and drop a review with your biggest takeaway.
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