AWS for Software Companies Podcast

By: Amazon Web Services
  • Summary

  • Stay current on new cloud trends. Top software companies, respected industry analysts, and experienced consultants join Amazon Web Services leaders to talk about the cloud topics that matter to you—including the latest in AI, migration, Software-as-a-Service, and more. We produce new episodes regularly.

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Episodes
  • Ep098: From BI to Gen AI: A CTO's Journey Through Data Evolution
    May 7 2025

    Ash Pembroke, Portfolio CTO of Caylent, discusses the critical balance of data accuracy in the era of Gen AI for the benefit of boosting innovation.

    Topics Include:

    • Ash Pembroke, Portfolio CTO of Caylent, self-identifies as a "recovering data scientist."
    • Caylent is an AWS native services company.
    • Data quality remains an issue despite Gen AI.
    • Contrasts legalism versus mysticism in data quality.
    • Legalism: accurate data when applications need it.
    • Mysticism: insights that help decision-making.
    • Traditional data foundations approach is being challenged weekly.
    • Gen AI developments force rethinking of solution architectures.
    • Teams share solutions through giant Slack threads.
    • Example: Vector databases questioned after model context protocol.
    • Still do traditional data assessments, but stay flexible.
    • Integration and data processing constantly get abstracted.
    • Data strategy equals architecture strategy equals business strategy.
    • Traditional approach: standardize data across engineering teams.
    • New approach: allow business users to innovate.
    • Bring valuable techniques back to the organization.
    • Case study: North Sea wind turbine alerts.
    • Initially seen as data quality issue, revealed new predictive failure signal.
    • Gen AI enables local experimentation by business users.
    • Blurring lines between enterprise enablement and software building.
    • BrainBox AI case study: energy optimization across buildings.
    • Architecture decisions impact ability to scale products.
    • Work with business edges rather than looking for patterns.
    • Gen AI can process information from these working groups.
    • Think about data as a product, not asset.
    • Redimensionalize dependencies across your organization.
    • Now's a good time to attack data quality.
    • New tools help visualize complexity across organizations.


    Participants:

    · Ash Pembroke – Portfolio CTO, Caylent

    See how Amazon Web Services gives you the freedom to migrate, innovate, and scale your software company at https://aws.amazon.com/isv/


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    13 mins
  • Ep097: Specialized Agents & Agentic Orchestration - New Relic and the Future of Observability
    Apr 28 2025

    New Relic's Head of AI and ML Innovation, Camden Swita discusses their four-cornered AI strategy and envisions a future of "agentic orchestration" with specialized agents.

    Topics Include:

    • Introduction of Camden Swita, Head of AI at New Relic.
    • New Relic invented the observability space for monitoring applications.
    • Started with Java workloads monitoring and APM.
    • Evolved into full-stack observability with infrastructure and browser monitoring.
    • Uses advanced query language (NRQL) with time series database.
    • AI strategy focuses on AI ops for automation.
    • First cornerstone: Intelligent detection capabilities with machine learning.
    • Second cornerstone: Incident response with generative AI assistance.
    • Third cornerstone: Problem management with root cause analysis.
    • Fourth cornerstone: Knowledge management to improve future detection.
    • Initially overwhelmed by "ocean of possibilities" with LLMs.
    • Needed narrow scope and guardrails for measurable progress.
    • Natural language to NRQL translation proved immensely complex.
    • Selecting from thousands of possible events caused accuracy issues.
    • Shifted from "one tool" approach to many specialized tools.
    • Created routing layer to select right tool for each job.
    • Evaluation of NRQL is challenging even when syntactically correct.
    • Implemented multi-stage validation with user confirmation step.
    • AWS partnership involves fine-tuning models for NRQL translation.
    • Using Bedrock to select appropriate models for different tasks.
    • Initially advised prototyping on biggest, best available models.
    • Now recommends considering specialized, targeted models from start.
    • Agent development platforms have improved significantly since beginning.
    • Future focus: "Agentic orchestration" with specialized agents.
    • Envisions agents communicating through APIs without human prompts.
    • Integration with AWS tools like Amazon Q.
    • Industry possibly plateauing in large language model improvements.
    • Increasing focus on inference-time compute in newer models.
    • Context and quality prompts remain crucial despite model advances.
    • Potential pros and cons to inference-time compute approach.


    Participants:

    • Camden Swita – Head of AI & ML Innovation, Product Management, New Relic


    See how Amazon Web Services gives you the freedom to migrate, innovate, and scale your software company at https://aws.amazon.com/isv/

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    29 mins
  • Ep096: Navigating Cloud Marketplaces: How Suger is Streamlining Software Distribution
    Apr 22 2025

    Jon Yoo, CEO of Suger, shares how his company automates the complex & challenging workflows of selling software through cloud marketplaces like AWS.

    Topics Include:

    • Jon Yoo is co-founder/CEO of Suger.
    • Suger automates B2B marketplace workflows.
    • Handles listing, contracts, offers, billing for marketplaces like AWS.
    • Co-founder previously led Confluent's marketplace enablement product.
    • Confluent had 40-50% revenue through cloud marketplaces.
    • Required 10-20 engineers working solely on marketplace integration.
    • Engineers prefer core product work over marketplace integration.
    • Product/engineering leaders struggle with marketplace deployment requirements.
    • Marketplace customers adopt without marketing, creating unexpected management needs.
    • Version control is challenging for marketplace-deployed products.
    • License management through marketplace creates engineering challenges.
    • Suger helps sell, resell, co-sell through AWS Marketplace.
    • Marketplace integration isn't one-time; requires ongoing maintenance.
    • Business users constantly request marketplace automation features.
    • Suger works with Snowflake, Intel, and AI startups.
    • Data security concerns drive self-hosted AI deployments.
    • AI products increasingly deploy via AMI/container solutions.
    • AI products use usage-based pricing, not seat-based.
    • Usage-based pricing creates complex billing challenges.
    • AI products are tested at unprecedented rates.
    • Two deployment options: vendor cloud or customer cloud.
    • SaaS requires reporting usage to marketplace APIs.
    • Customer-hosted deployment simplifies some billing aspects.
    • Marketplaces need integration with ERP systems.
    • Version control particularly challenging for AI products.
    • Companies need automated updates for marketplace-deployed products.
    • License management includes scaling up/down and expiration handling.
    • Suger aims to integrate with GitHub for automatic updates.


    Participants:

    · Jon Yoo – CEO and Co-founder, Suger

    See how Amazon Web Services gives you the freedom to migrate, innovate, and scale your software company at https://aws.amazon.com/isv/


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    16 mins

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