Guest artist ALINE MOTTA

joins PELUMI ODUBANJO to discuss her work via 'Water is a Time Machine' by the artist herself. Originally published in Brazilian Portuguese by Fósforo Editora and Luna Parque Edições in 2022, the text reconfigures memories by using a non-linear perception of time and is part of a multi-layered project including video and performance. It includes personal documents that belong to the artist's mother, her calendars and journals from the 1970s and an account of her death in 2011, which is the central piece and backbone of the work.

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Aline and Pelumi discuss the book's stories around the artist's family members and their lives in Rio de Janeiro at the turn of the 20th century, a time of political turmoil which immediately followed the abolition of slavery. Their conversation encompasses floating, bombs, bridges, tuberculosis, mistranslation, iconography, submerging, chemotherapy, prayer, breathing, stoicism, Catholicism, time machines, interracial marriage, film school, personal archives, double images, direct communication, permanent connections, exchanging cells, changing organs, fraught connections, Congolese traditions, disciplinarian mothers, avoiding sugarcoating, intentional disorientation, umbilical cords, oral histories, heavy heartedness, Yoruba influences, colonial erasure, speculative studies, layers of time, writing in fragments, metaphors of motherhood, constructing new narratives, sleeping in hammocks, foundations of thought, clothes being archives, abolition of slavery, lineage as language, contradictions in relationships, the beginning of the Republic, the way histories are told in (black) families, trying to find reasons for a person's death, the magic of making someone breath under water, using words to make maps, connecting personal history with collective history, envisioning new pasts to free us from old narratives and manifest new futures, plus a recipe to treat bruises.

ALINE MOTTA

alinemotta.com

@1alinemotta

'A água é uma máquina do tempo' / 'Water is a time machine'

'(Outros) Fundamentos' / '(Other) Foundations'

'Pontes sobre Abismos' / 'Bridges over the Abyss'

INSTITUTIONS

Bienal de São Paulo 2023 'Choreographies of the Impossible'

Buenos Aires, Palermo Buenos Aires, Argentina

Centre Pompidou, France

MALBA Museo de Arte Lanoamericano de Buenos Aires / Latin American Art Museum of Rietberg Museum, Zurich

ARTISTS + FILM + WRITERS

'BLKNWS: Terms & Conditions' 2025

John Akomfrah 'Vertigo Sea' 2015

Kathleen Collins 'Whatever Happened to Interracial Love?' 2016

Kahlil Joseph

'Losing Ground' 1982 Machado de Assis 'Father Against Mother' 1906

Professor Stuart Hall (1932-2014)

Rosana Paulino

Saidiya Hartman 'Lose Your Mother: A Journey Along the Atlantic Slave Route' 2006

'The Cruz Brothers and Miss Malloy' 1980

PLACES

Angola

Australia

Bahia

Bahia

Brazil

Burma

Cachoeira

Congo

Germany

Ghana

Guanabara Bay

Myanmar

Niterói

Nigeria

Portugal

Rio de Janeiro

São Paulo

Sierra Leone

Torres Strait Islands

TERMS + CULTURAL GROUPS

ase/ashe

Bantu languages

capoeira martial art movement

Kimbundu/Mbundu language

maracatu dance

ori

orishas

oyinbo/oyibo

samba dance

Yoruba

Guest artist AYO AKINGBADE

joins ELIZABETH FULLERTON to discuss her work via 'In the Eye of the Wild' by Nastassja Martin. Published in 2021, the story follows the aftermath of a French anthropologist's gruesome attack by a bear, while she is living with the Evan people on Russia's Kamchatka Peninsula.

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Ayo and Elizabeth's conversation encompasses healing, hostility, joy, architecture, nepotism, romance, underdogs, irony, phobias, animism, neglect, transformation, swimming, analogue, memoir, disfigurement, hopefulness, multifaceted, strong women, self-centring, turning points, arthouse niche, tarot reading, anthropological study, defence mechanisms, shared fearlessness, spiritual guides, questioning society's expectations, power in names, thinking the worse, colonisation of microbes, French new wave and the rewards of positive thinking.

AYO AKINGBADE

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'Keep Looking' 2024, 14 minute film

'Head of Idoani Girl' 2024, giclee print

'Show Me the World Mister' 2023, publication

'Faluyi' 2022, 14 minute film

'The Fist' 2022, 24 minute film

'Jitterbug' 2022, 24 minute film

'Dear Babylon' 2019, 21 minute film

'Tower XYZ' 2017 3 minute film

BOOKS WRITERS

Derek Walcott 'The First'

Franz Kafka 'The Trial'

Fred Moten

FILM ARTISTS

Agnès Varda

Alfred Hitchcock

Alice Rohrwacher 'La Chimera'

Chantal Akerman 'Family Business'

Chris Marker 'Sans Soleil'

David Lynch

Harun Farocki 'Workers Leaving the Factory' 1995

Mark Dion

Jacques Rivette

Jean-Luc Godard

Jim Jarmusch

Julian Schnabel 'The Diving Bell and the Butterfly'

Lumière Brothers 'Workers Leaving the Lumière Factory in Lyon' 1895

Roni Horn

Stanley Kubrick 'Dr. Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb'

Steve McQueen 'Caribs' Leap / Western Deep' 2002

Steven Spielberg

Quentin Tarantino 'Inglorious Bastards'

Werner Herzog 'Grizzly Man'

ARCHITECTURE

Dora Boatemah

Le Corbusier

ART INSTITUTIONS

Artangel London

Chisenhale Gallery

Cinereach

Institute of Contemporary Art

John Hansard Gallery

London Film Festival

London LCC

Spike Island

The Baltic Gateshead

The Whitworth

PERFORMERS

Ebenezer Obey 'The Only Condition to Save Nigeria'

Josh O'Connor

Kate Bush

Okwui Okpokwasili

Sade Adu

ART FICTIONS MUSIC Griffin Knipe

ART FICTIONS LOGO Joanna Quinn