• All about Mocking, with Wiremock's Tom Akehurst
    Jul 1 2025

    Mocking is one of those things that started out as a simple idea, and has evolved to support an incredible amount of developer use cases over the years. In this episode of the Podcast, Tom from Wiremock chats with Phil about what mocking is, strategies for not littering OpenAPI doc with mocking details, and ways to keep api dev teams empowered by mocking, instead of hampered by it.

    • Wiremock
      • on BlueSky @wiremock.bsky.social
      • on Mastodon @fosstodon/wiremock
      • on GitHub @wiremock/wiremock

    Creators & Guests

    • Phil Sturgeon - Host
    • Tom Akehurst - Guest

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    52 mins
  • Generating API Specs can be Painful, with Joel Clermont from Mastering Laravel
    Jul 1 2025

    In this episode of 'APIs You Won't Hate', the Phil discusses API development with Joel Clermont, a prominent member of the Laravel PHP community.


    They explore different approaches to building APIs, focusing particularly on the debate between code-first and design-first methodologies. Joel shares his experiences and challenges with generating API specifications and expresses his preference for manually writing specs. They also touch on challenges related to auto-generated specs, including the risk of drift between code and documentation. Various tools and strategies for improving API spec accuracy and integration are discussed, highlighting the importance of planning and thorough documentation in API development.

    • Joel Clermont
      • website - joelclermont.com
      • github - @joelclermont
    • Why I don't like generating API specs on Mastering Laravel
    • OpenAPI Overlay spec on GitHub
    • Use OpenAPI Overlays Today from APIs You Won't Hate
    • Scramble for Laravel

    Creators & Guests

    • Phil Sturgeon - Host
    • Joel Clermont - Guest
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    28 mins
  • Rails APIs and Clickfunnels with Rich Steinmetz
    Feb 3 2025
    • Rich Steinmetz (https://richstone.io/meet-rich)
    • Clickfunnels
      • https://clickfunnels.com/
      • Developer portal https://developers.myclickfunnels.com/
    • Bullet Train for Ruby on Rails - https://bullettrain.co/docs/api
      • SuperScaffolding - https://bullettrain.co/docs/super-scaffolding
    • Hyrum's Law - https://www.hyrumslaw.com/

    Creators & Guests

    • Rich Steinmetz - Guest


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    39 mins
  • Catching up with Phil, Mike, and Alexander
    Nov 1 2024

    Though we've been working together for a long while, it turns out that Alexander, Phil, and Mike had never all recorded a podcast together before. We caught up to catch up on what everyone's been up to these past few months, to talk APIs, and to gab about the future of this very community.

    Creators & Guests

    • Phil Sturgeon - Host
    • Mike Bifulco - Host
    • Alexander Karan - Host

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    49 mins
  • No more API usage nightmares, with Alex Klarfeld from Supergood.ai
    Aug 15 2024
    • Supergood.ai
      • OSS on github
    • Alex Klarfeld
      • GitHub
      • LinkedIn
      • Threads / Twitter


    Creators & Guests

    • Mike Bifulco - Host
    • Alex Klarfeld - Guest


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    30 mins
  • Building an API for Global News with Artem Bugara from Newscatcher
    Jul 31 2024
    • Artem Bugara
      • twitter
    • Newscatcher API
      • On GitHub kotartemiy/newscatcher
      • Research Papers

    Creators & Guests

    • Artem Bugara - Guest

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    49 mins
  • Convince me this is a bad idea: how Mercoa built a platform for accounts Payable
    Jul 15 2024

    Show notes

    • Sandeep Dinesh
      • LinkedIn
      • GitHub
      • Twitter
    • Mercoa
      • GitHub - mercoa-finance
      • LinkedIn


    • (00:00) - Sandeep Dinesh from Mercoa
    • (15:57) - Debate me!

    Creators & Guests
    • Mike Bifulco - Host
    • Sandeep Dinesh - Guest

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    38 mins
  • Designing the API for building Voice Assistants, with Nikhil Gupta from Vapi
    Jun 17 2024

    • (00:00) - Introduction and Guest Introduction
    • (00:52) - The Future of Voice AI
    • (01:56) - Wapi's Elevator Pitch
    • (03:27) - Challenges and Opportunities in Voice AI
    • (05:11) - Building Voice AI Solutions
    • (11:00) - The Genesis of Wapi
    • (16:39) - API Design and Developer Experience
    • (21:23) - Docker vs Kubernetes: A Developer's Perspective
    • (22:28) - Hello World with Wapi: A Hands-On Experience
    • (23:34) - The Developer Experience: Making APIs Accessible
    • (26:09) - The Future of Dev Tooling with AI
    • (28:43) - Use Cases and Real-World Applications
    • (33:23) - Technical Deep Dive: Building with Node and Kubernetes
    • (37:59) - Team and Future Plans
    • (39:15) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts
    • vapi.ai
      • github
      • openapi spec
      • twitter
      • linkedin
      • blog
      • docs
    • hyperbound.ai - call bots to practice selling


    • (00:00) - Introduction and Guest Introduction
    • (00:52) - The Future of Voice AI
    • (01:56) - Wapi's Elevator Pitch
    • (03:27) - Challenges and Opportunities in Voice AI
    • (05:11) - Building Voice AI Solutions
    • (11:00) - The Genesis of Wapi
    • (16:39) - API Design and Developer Experience
    • (21:23) - Docker vs Kubernetes: A Developer's Perspective
    • (22:28) - Hello World with Wapi: A Hands-On Experience
    • (23:34) - The Developer Experience: Making APIs Accessible
    • (26:09) - The Future of Dev Tooling with AI
    • (28:43) - Use Cases and Real-World Applications
    • (33:23) - Technical Deep Dive: Building with Node and Kubernetes
    • (37:59) - Team and Future Plans
    • (39:15) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts
    Creators & Guests
    • Mike Bifulco - Host
    • Nikhil Gupta - Guest
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    40 mins