In Episode 27 of AI Lab Unfiltered, Drew Veach and Pete Terryn are joined by Sonny Lee, CEO & Founder of Holisticare, to explore the intersection of AI and productization.

They dive into:

• How AI drives both new products and operational excellence
• Why subject matter experts are now building tools with no-code AI platforms
• Practical use cases in manufacturing, automation, and healthcare
• Data challenges, interoperability, and AI bias in sensitive fields
• The future of autonomous driving and synthetic data training

Chapters:
(00:00) Welcome to AI Lab Unfiltered + Guest Intro: Sonny Lee, CEO of Holisticare
(02:11) What Productization Means in the Age of AI
(05:37) AI’s Two Paths: New Products vs. Operational Excellence
(08:23) Empowering Subject Matter Experts with No-Code AI Tools
(11:48) Eliminating Miscommunication Between Experts and Developers
(15:29) Automation Wins: Zapier, Data Flows, and Healthcare Use Cases
(19:21) Data Interoperability and Healthcare Challenges
(23:45) AI Bias and Why Ground Truth is Hard in Healthcare
(27:14) Stakeholder Alignment: Data, Talent, and Leadership Buy-In
(32:40) Overcoming AI Resistance Inside Organizations
(36:22) Human-in-the-Loop: Why Doctors and AI Should Collaborate
(40:48) Autonomous Driving, Edge Cases, and Synthetic Data
(45:15) Tesla vs. Waymo: Vision vs. LiDAR Approaches
(49:03) Building Virtual Worlds for Safer AI Training
(53:20) AI’s Future in Transportation and Beyond
(56:42) Where to Find Sonny Lee and Closing Thoughts

If you’re a business leader, innovator, or AI enthusiast, this episode is packed with insights on using AI strategically to boost ROI and drive adoption across industries.

Drew and Pete dive into the uncomfortable truth: AI might already be better than you at parts of your job. They explore the rise of task-specific agents, how context is becoming king, and why some devs might miss writing code—but shouldn’t. Bonus: a wild story of an AI that self-preserved by blackmail.

Chapters:
(00:00) Intro to AI Lab Unfiltered
(01:12) The Emotional Shift from Coding to Prompting
(04:00) AI Agents: Taskmasters or Threats?
(07:22) Why Context Is the New Prompt
(11:03) Automating Workflows with N8N
(14:28) Can AI Replace You—or Should It?
(18:44) The Blackmailing AI Experiment
(22:01) The Real Future of AGI and Work
(25:30) Developers, Adapt or Be Left Behind
(27:46) AI as Coworker, Not Competitor
(30:22) Final Reflections and Takeaways

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In this episode of the AI Lab Unfiltered podcast, Drew Veach, Pete Terryn, and Alex R. Mead explore the world of AI automation, focusing on the N8N platform. They discuss the importance of agentic workflows, demonstrate a live transcription workflow, and delve into the future of AI in the workplace. The conversation emphasizes the accessibility of these tools and the potential for increased productivity through automation.

Chapters

(00:00) Introduction to AI Automation Tools
(02:40) Exploring N8N for Workflow Automation
(07:11) Live Demo: Building a Transcription Workflow
(11:49) Step-by-Step Breakdown of the Workflow
(17:46) Utilizing OpenAI for Transcription
(23:23) Understanding API Costs and Tokens
(23:26) Understanding API Costs and Budgeting
(29:43) Building Efficient Workflows with N8N
(38:19) The Future of Work: AI and Automation
(41:21) Embracing AI: Skills for the Future

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