AI did not creep in quietly, it arrived like a tidal wave. We talk with Ramez Naam, computer scientist, science fiction author, futurist, and climate tech investor, to pin down what today’s large language models really are, why they’re the fastest adopted general technology in history, and why “impressive” is not the same thing as artificial general intelligence. Along the way, we challenge the idea that AGI is right around the corner, even as these tools already outperform any single human on breadth of knowledge and rapid synthesis.

We get practical about capability and risk: where ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini shine, where they still fail, and why supervision and verification are the new baseline skill for knowledge workers. We also unpack why the AI model race keeps flipping leaders, why user data may not create the kind of network effects people assume, and what recursive self-improvement would need to be real rather than wishful thinking.

Then we go straight to the biggest near-term shock: coding with AI. Vibe coding and modern developer tools are collapsing the distance between an idea and a working app, which raises hard questions about software engineering careers, junior hiring, and what “good” looks like when you are managing an army of bots. Finally, we zoom out to the energy and infrastructure behind AI, from data centres and grid bottlenecks to the case for solar-and-battery powered compute, including why Australia could be well placed.

If you’re curious about the future of AI, AI jobs, AI reliability, data centres, and what the next ten years might realistically hold, this conversation will give you a grounded framework. Subscribe, share the episode with someone who debates AI with you, and leave a review with your most surprising takeaway.

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