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A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity Disorder

A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity Disorder

By: Drew & Garden System
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There’s never a dull moment for hosts, Drew and Garden System, who are a couple that have both been diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder. While they are navigating their healing journey, they continue to manage full time careers, raise four teenagers and a house full of pets. Not only do they aim to speak to people who have lived experience with DID and their supporters, but also therapists and anyone who wants to learn more. The podcast talks about Dissociative Identity Disorder in a way that someone who knows nothing about DID will be able to understand, and at the same time is designed to be a resource for therapists, while supporting and validating those with lived experience. Dissociative Identity Disorder is a highly stigmatized mental health diagnosis that has been subject to many myths and misinformation over the years. These myths, along with highly-sensationalized media portrayals, have led to many who still believe this disorder is not real and simply created by therapists who impose themselves on highly suggestible clients. The goal of the podcast is to dispel these myths and educate the world at large the truth about Dissociative Identity Disorder, and the reality of what having this diagnosis really looks like. The brain had to find a unique way to cope in order to survive the trauma people with DID faced from a very young age. Also, this condition is not rare, although many reputable sources still cite it as such. People with DID are ordinary members in your community that you might encounter in your daily life. Drew and Garden System want to shed light on the challenging symptoms people with DID face and share how they have overcome those challenges and found the gifts of joy that all of their parts bring to each other.

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Episodes
  • Learn to Recognize Dissociation with Dorinna Ruh, LCSW
    May 13 2025

    Did you know that dissociative disorders are almost as common as mood disorders? Drew & Garden System chat with Dorinna Ruh, LCSW and cover valuable information about prevalence rates, how to recognize dissociation in yourself or in your client, ways to assess for a dissociative disorder, and a few EMDR tips as well! If you're working with complex trauma, then you're working with dissociation. You won't want to miss this episode!

    About Dorinna Ruh, LCSW:

    Dorinna’s career has spanned 34 years, as she became a counselor in 1989, working in the substance abuse field. She obtained her Master’s Degree in Social Work from the State University of New York in 1995.

    After moving to Fort Collins, Colorado in 1999, she started a private practice. She was trained in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) in 2001 and found that this therapy was so powerful and such a good fit for her that it has been her primary lens since then. By 2010 she was both certified in and an approved consultant in EMDR therapy. For the past 9 years she has facilitated EMDR trainings for HAP/Trauma recovery and is currently a trainer candidate.

    She specializes in working with complex trauma and dissociative disorders and in addition to her therapy practice, she offers consultation and training for other therapists through her consultation business Advanced EMDR Education.

    Group consultation for EMDR certification and for advanced practitioners geared toward treating complex trauma.

    Individual consultation.

    Consultation link is https://advanced-emdr-education.com/consultation-groups

    Trainings on Demand:

    Link is https://trainings.advanced-emdr-education.com/collections

    Therapy Snapshots — one-hour low-cost training on topics that have been super important to me:

    • EMDR Treatment Planning and Target Sequencing;
    • Karpman's Drama Triangle as a Lens for Countertransference;
    • Internal Healing Dialogue;
    • Creative Resourcing;
    • Building Internal Scaffolding with Ideal Parent

    Weaving in Cognitive Interweaves - a three-hour EMDRIA-approved class

    EMDR and Dissocation from the Beginning - a 12-hour EMDRIA-approved class that focuses on phases 1 and 2 of EMDR therapy.

    Thank you to our Sponsors for this Episode:

    https://www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com/

    https://www.dylancrumpler.com/watch-petals-of-a-rose

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    Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem

    Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves

    Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239

    Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

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    1 hr and 42 mins
  • Part III The Hot Topic: Sex & Intimacy When You Have Dissociative Identity Disorder
    Mar 11 2025

    Note: We highly encourage you to listen to Parts I & II before listening to this episode, as we continue to honor our truth and authenticity, which may feel more intense than the previous episodes on this subject. We would like for you to be able to determine if this episode will be something you want to listen to or pass on, so here are some details of what we share in this season 3 finale. The first thing we talk about is being "turned on" and how that isn’t always a good feeling and can be triggering. And then we talk about the Big O, but just so you know, we use the actual word and all the actual words in this episode, and also colorful language here and there. We also talk about selves that were created to quote “like” sex, and we discuss flashbacks, body memories and switching. We talk about how we manage our sexual selves, including perceptions of feeling like a perpetrator. We go over the topic of consent, and we also talk about the feelings of guilt that come up for either wanting sex or not wanting sex when in a romantic relationship. Please remember that you may pause and come back if you feel yourself or selves feeling triggered or dissociated. Please take good care of yourself or selves while listening.

    Please visit acoupleofmultiples.com to see all of our current offerings!

    Our amazing sponsors for Season 3:
    The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.

    Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158

    As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.

    Alix Amar, LCSW offers Creative

    Send us a text

    Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem

    Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves

    Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239

    Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

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    34 mins
  • When Your Parent Has Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Garden System's Adult Children
    Feb 25 2025

    Drew & Garden System have a candid conversation with Garden System's two oldest children, both adults now, about what it was like growing up with a parent that has dissociative identity disorder.

    Please visit acoupleofmultiples.com to see all of our current offerings!

    Our amazing sponsors for Season 3:
    The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.

    Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158

    As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.

    Alix Amar, LCSW offers Creative Art classes and series including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. The 8-week winter series of the Creative Journal begins in early March. For more information check out her website at alixamar.com

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    52 mins

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