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A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity Disorder

A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity Disorder

By: Drew & Garden System
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There’s never a dull moment for hosts, Drew and Garden System, who are a couple that have both been diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder. While they are navigating their healing journey, they continue to manage full time careers, raise four teenagers and a house full of pets. Not only do they aim to speak to people who have lived experience with DID and their supporters, but also therapists and anyone who wants to learn more. The podcast talks about Dissociative Identity Disorder in a way that someone who knows nothing about DID will be able to understand, and at the same time is designed to be a resource for therapists, while supporting and validating those with lived experience. Dissociative Identity Disorder is a highly stigmatized mental health diagnosis that has been subject to many myths and misinformation over the years. These myths, along with highly-sensationalized media portrayals, have led to many who still believe this disorder is not real and simply created by therapists who impose themselves on highly suggestible clients. The goal of the podcast is to dispel these myths and educate the world at large the truth about Dissociative Identity Disorder, and the reality of what having this diagnosis really looks like. The brain had to find a unique way to cope in order to survive the trauma people with DID faced from a very young age. Also, this condition is not rare, although many reputable sources still cite it as such. People with DID are ordinary members in your community that you might encounter in your daily life. Drew and Garden System want to shed light on the challenging symptoms people with DID face and share how they have overcome those challenges and found the gifts of joy that all of their parts bring to each other.

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  • Healing From Cult Torture: An Interview with Cheryl Rainfield

    Healing From Cult Torture: An Interview with Cheryl Rainfield
    Mar 3 2026

    Drew & Garden System have an in depth discussion about surviving and healing from cult torture and abuse with Cheryl Rainfield, a survivor living with poly-fragmented dissociative identities. who used creative writing as a tool for healing and to shed light on the truth on cults and human trafficking.

    Award-winning author Cheryl Rainfield is a nonbinary lesbian who writes novels for teens, drawing on their own trauma and healing experience to write. They’re the author of six books including SCARS, STAINED, HUNTED, and VISIONS; SCARS has their own arm on the cover. Cheryl is a cult torture survivor with resulting polyfragmented Dissociative Identity, and talks about these issues on social media and through articles on their website. Cheryl Rainfield has been said to write with “great empathy and compassion” and to write stories that “can, perhaps, save a life.”

    CherylRainfield.com . TikTok . Facebook . Instagram . YouTube

    Cheryl also published an article about how cults utilize aspects of EMDR in their torture and modifications for therapists to help overcome these barriers. Check it out here: https://www.cherylrainfield.com/cult-uses-aspects-of-emdr-in-cult-torture/.

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    Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

    And most importantly: remember that every system is different. What works for one may not work for another—and that’s okay. Your journey is valid, your healing is real, and we’re so glad you’re hanging out with A Couple of Multiples.

    Articles cited in Seasons 4 & 5:

    Brand, B. L., Sar, V., Stavropoulos, P., Krüger, C., Korzekwa, M., Martínez-Taboas, A., & Middleton, W. (2016). Separating Fact from Fiction: An Empirical Examination of Six Myths About Dissociative Identity Disorder. Harvard review of psychiatry, 24(4), 257–270. https://doi.org/10.1097/HRP.0000000000000100
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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • You Can Heal: Jade Miller, Peer Support Specialist

    You Can Heal: Jade Miller, Peer Support Specialist
    Feb 17 2026

    Drew & Garden System share powerful healing stories from Jade Miller, a peer support specialist. Jade Miller is a multiple, writer, and peer support worker who helps others living with dissociative experiences find community, language, and grounding. Through her coaching at Peer Support for Multiples and her upcoming Safe Harbor Peer Respite Center, she's building spaces where complexity and healing can coexist. Her teaching and writing emphasize belonging, integrity, and the quiet power of survivors leading their own recovery.

    Safe Harbor Peer Respite Center

    Thank you to our sponsors!

    Alix Amar with Dissociative Creative Explorations

    Healing My Parts

    Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem

    Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves

    Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239

    Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

    And most importantly: remember that every system is different. What works for one may not work for another—and that’s okay. Your journey is valid, your healing is real, and we’re so glad you’re hanging out with A Couple of Multiples.

    Articles cited in Seasons 4 & 5:

    Brand, B. L., Sar, V., Stavropoulos, P., Krüger, C., Korzekwa, M., Martínez-Taboas, A., & Middleton, W. (2016). Separating Fact from Fiction: An Empirical Examination of Six Myths About Dissociative Identity Disorder. Harvard review of psychiatry, 24(4), 257–270. https://doi.org/10.1097/HRP.0000000000000100
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    48 mins
  • Old Before Their Time: An Interview with Dr, Frank W. Putnam

    Old Before Their Time: An Interview with Dr, Frank W. Putnam
    Feb 3 2026

    Welcome to Season 5!

    Dr. Frank W. Putnam shares the results from a 35 year long study, the Female Growth & Development Study, which he co-founded with the late Penelope K Trickett, PhD, on the effects of childhood maltreatment, particularly childhood sexual abuse.

    Frank W. Putnam, MD, is a child and adolescent psychiatrist and an internationally recognized expert on the health effects of child abuse and family violence. He helped to create the Dissociative Experiences Scale.

    You can buy a copy of Dr. Frank W. Putnam's book here: https://amzn.to/4tcsMiK

    Thank you to our sponsors:

    Transitions Delaware LLC

    Healing Selves Therapeutics PLLC

    Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem

    Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves

    Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239

    Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

    And most importantly: remember that every system is different. What works for one may not work for another—and that’s okay. Your journey is valid, your healing is real, and we’re so glad you’re hanging out with A Couple of Multiples.

    Articles cited in Seasons 4 & 5:

    Brand, B. L., Sar, V., Stavropoulos, P., Krüger, C., Korzekwa, M., Martínez-Taboas, A., & Middleton, W. (2016). Separating Fact from Fiction: An Empirical Examination of Six Myths About Dissociative Identity Disorder. Harvard review of psychiatry, 24(4), 257–270. https://doi.org/10.1097/HRP.0000000000000100
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    1 hr and 22 mins
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