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5-4

5-4

By: Prologue Projects
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5-4 is a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks. Hosted by Peter Shamshiri, Rhiannon Hamam, and Michael Liroff, it's a progressive and occasionally profane take on the ideological battles at the heart of the Court's most important landmark cases and an irreverent tour of all the ways in which the law is shaped by politics.

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5-4 is a production of Prologue Projects.

2025 Prologue Projects Political Science Politics & Government
Episodes
  • The Legal Media is Still in Denial [SUBSCRIBER-ONLY]

    The Legal Media is Still in Denial [SUBSCRIBER-ONLY]
    Jul 14 2026

    Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael take a hard look at media coverage of this Supreme Court term.

    Thank you to our wonderful subscribers.

    5 to 4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Allison Rodgers . Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.

    Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On BlueSky, find Peter @notalawyer.bsky.social, Michael @fleerultra.bsky.social, and Rhiannon @aywarhiannon.bsky.social.



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    5 mins
  • Trump v. Barbara

    Trump v. Barbara
    Jul 7 2026

    Birthright citizenship, widely considered settled law before Trump tried to overturn it via executive order last year, escaped this term unscathed by one single vote. Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael explore the various mental illnesses, brainworms, and ahistorical nonsense that led to such a close decision.

    If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.

    5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Alli Rodgers. Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations. Transcriptions of each episode are available at fivefourpod.com

    Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On BlueSky, find Peter @notalawyer.bsky.social, Michael @fleerultra.bsky.social, and Rhiannon @aywarhiannon.bsky.social.



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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • 250 Years of Bad Decisions: SCOTUS, the Civil War, and the End of Reconstruction

    250 Years of Bad Decisions: SCOTUS, the Civil War, and the End of Reconstruction
    Jun 30 2026

    In honor of America’s birthday, join Peter, Rhiannon, Michael and University of Pennsylvania Law Professor Kermit Roosevelt as they talk through how the Supreme Court greased the wheels for the end of Reconstruction and the rise of Jim Crow.

    Check out Kermit’s book The Nation That Never Was: Reconstructing America’s Story.

    If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.

    5 to 4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Allison Rodgers. Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.

    Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On BlueSky, find Peter @notalawyer.bsky.social, Michael @fleerultra.bsky.social, and Rhiannon @aywarhiannon.bsky.social.



    Our Sponsors:
    * Check out Quince and use my code quince.com/fivefour for a great deal: https://www.quince.com


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    54 mins
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