Life has a way of throwing us into seasons we never saw coming—career changes, shifting relationships, or even that vague sense that what used to work just doesn’t anymore. In these moments, it’s easy to feel disoriented, like success is slipping further and further out of reach.

But what if these unsettling moments are actually fertile ground for something beautiful?

Today on the 4:13, Levi Lusko talks about how to navigate these spiraling seasons with faith and courage. He shares honest stories, biblical wisdom, and practical rhythms to help you pause, gain perspective, and discover that even the hardest transitions can become blessings in disguise.

You’ll discover how new seasons require new strategies, why growth often comes through struggle, and how to give yourself grace along the way.

So, whether you’re in your twenties and questioning your direction, or you’re well into your golden years and wondering what’s next, this conversation will help you trade in those old definitions of success and embrace the circumstances that don’t yet make sense.

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Wouldn’t you like to not only understand God’s Word, but also let it transform you by the power of the Holy Spirit? Oh friend, me too!

So today, we have Pastor Dan Jacobsen with us, and he is going to unpack how this is possible. But first, you should know there’s something really special about this…

Years ago, Dan unearthed an unpublished manuscript tucked away in a dusty manila folder that belonged to his grandfather, the legendary Bible teacher Warren Wiersbe! Dan finished the work his grandfather started, and the result is a beautiful new devotional and this inspiring conversation.

Dan not only gives us the inside scoop on his grandfather’s life and ministry, but he also shares insights on why real change matters (no matter your age) and how you can stop settling for superficial fixes and start embracing true, Spirit-led transformation.

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In the fast-paced, overly scheduled cadence of our culture, it can be hard to fit in Sabbath. But what if Sabbath isn’t designed to fit into our busy lives? What if it’s supposed to take over our lives?

Hebrew scholar and Old Testament professor Travis West is here to help you radically reimagine what it means to Sabbath! And contrary to popular belief, it’s not just about taking a day off or creating a list of rules. It’s about establishing a rhythm of life that reorders everything.

By looking to Scripture and applying lots of grace, Travis explains how Sabbath draws boundaries around your stress and busyness to make space for rest, delight, connection, and joy. You'll hear how Sabbath can transform your relationship with time, why work shouldn’t always come before play, and how simple, intentional practices can reorient your days toward the life God actually intends for you.

So, if you're tired of exhaustion being your default setting, listen in! This conversation is your invitation to embrace Sabbath—not as a rule, but as a rescue.

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Conflict. Division. Disagreements. Whether it’s with a neighbor, a co-worker, a friend—or even a stranger—navigating relationships isn’t always easy. Yet somehow, we’re called to love our neighbor.

But what does that even mean? And how does it show up when relationships are so complicated?

Well, on this episode of the 4:13, author and Bible teacher Jada Edwards will challenge you to rethink what love is. Because (Spoiler Alert!) we often get love wrong! It’s nothing like how the world defines it!

So today, Jada explains what love really is and how understanding God’s divine version of love can change everything. You’ll learn how to tell if you're truly being loving—or just being nice—and five surprising ways to love others the way God intended.

So, if you’ve got someone in your life who’s hard to love—or you just want to learn to love others well—listen in! You’ll appreciate this deep, grace-filled conversation with my friend, Jada.

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In a noisy, fast-paced world, quiet can feel out of reach—like it’s a luxury reserved only for the super-spiritual, the ultra-disciplined, or those with endless free time. But quiet is, and always has been, at the heart of every single person, and it’s essential to our spiritual life and growth.

So today on the 4:13, author Sarah Clarkson is back with a powerful reminder: quiet is not about the absence of noise or distraction—it’s an orientation of the heart.

Sarah will invite you to discover the profound impact of resisting hurry and cultivating a life of holy attention. Plus, she’ll teach you how small, practical shifts in your daily habits and mindset can lead to a richer, more present way of living.

I promise you are not too busy to embrace this. You’re too busy NOT to! So take a deep breath, and let’s reclaim quiet together.

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Do you ever feel intimidated when reading the Bible on your own? You’re not alone. Many of us want a deeper connection with God’s Word but find ourselves relying on devotionals or simply reading for information, without letting it truly change us.

Well today, The Navigators’ very own Bill Mowry will help you shift that mindset.

He shares five powerful practices to help you encounter God every time you open the Bible. You’ll love his simple and memorable hand illustration, the four heart-check questions to ask before you even begin reading, and his practical encouragement for preparing both your posture and mindset.

Whether you’re a first-timer who wants to learn how to personally engage with God’s Word—or you’re a seasoned Bible geek who wants to fall in love with Scripture all over again—this conversation is for you.

So grab your Bible, listen in, and get ready to hold the Word in a whole new way.

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We’re all just trying to get through life in this messed-up world, and whether we realize it or not, we all go looking for a “fix” to help us cope with the pain, uncertainties, or difficulties we face.

Sometimes those fixes seem harmless, and other times, they spiral into habits we can’t break.

So, today on the 4:13, best-selling author, psychotherapist, and Enneagram expert Ian Morgan Cron will challenge the way you think about addiction. He’ll explain what addiction really is, how everyone is addicted to something, and why the 12 Steps aren’t just for alcoholics—they’re for all of us.

Whether you’ve struggled with overeating, overworking, perfectionism, or just find yourself stuck in a bad habit or unhealthy cycle, you’ll discover that addiction isn’t just “their” problem. It’s all of ours. We’re all prone to self-destructive behaviors that ultimately create more problems than they solve.

But here’s the good news: there’s a path to freedom. And it’s not about white-knuckling your way through change—it’s about a grace-powered transformation that leads to spiritual awakening.

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Lots of believers have questions about the Holy Spirit—like who is He? And should I “feel” Him? Does the Holy Spirit show up today like He did in the Bible? And why do other believers seem to have a connection with the Holy Spirit, and I don't?

Well, if you’ve ever wondered these things, you’re not alone—and you’re in the right place.

Today on the 4:13, Margaret Feinberg will take you on a journey through Scripture—from the Old Testament to Pentecost—to uncover how the Spirit has been at work since the very beginning.

She’ll answer your burning questions about the Spirit, including how to recognize His work in you and around you, whether or not He still speaks to His people through dreams, and how to discern between something that is Spirit-led and something that is self-led.

And most importantly, she’ll help you realize that you don’t have to settle for just knowing about the Holy Spirit—you can truly know Him.

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