32 | 🧩Interdependent Realization
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About this listen
I almost titled this talk “Spirit, Soul, and Body,” but the term “Interdependent Realization” stuck out as we prepped for the recent GY6 workshop.
Here’s what you need to know about Interdependent Realization (a phrase I hijacked from my friend, Mike Sanders, who wrote the forward for GY6— see Mike’s links below)…
1️⃣ There are two unseen parts of us— and they are different.
(Now, although we discuss these three areas as “different parts,” understand that they each impact one another. This is what Mike calls Interdependent Realization. The body, the soul, and the spirit don’t exist in isolation from one another.)
It’s easy to distinguish the “seen” part of us (body), but differentiating between the unseen parts is a little tricky…
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Hebrews 4:12 shows us that are “unique,” though. In fact, the Bible helps us discern which part is soul and which part is spirit…
🧩 The spirit is the part of us that is “ONE” with Christ, as of the Cross (see Romans 6:6, 1 Corinthians 6:17, and Galatians 2:20).
🧩 The soul is the part of us that’s “in process.” It’s our mind, our thoughts, our will… (read: our personality), and is the piece of us that’s being transformed (see Romans 12:1-2, Philippians 2:12).
2️⃣ God intends to redeem ALL of you— not just your spirit.
3 John 2 is a prayer that the Apostle John offered…
“May all go well with you and may you be in good health, as it goes well with your soul.”
Some translations propose, “May you prosper in all things, as it goes with your soul.”
John reminds us that God wants to do a work in every area of our life— even beyond the spirit, soul, and body. He wants to impact our families, our finances, our faith, our friendships… every area.
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Paul prayed something similar in 1 Thessalonians 5:23:
“May your whole spirit, soul, and body be kept blameless…”
3️⃣ We reap the “benefits” of the “part” of us we most fully lean into…
The soul is essential. God doesn’t want to eradicate it.
In fact, Proverbs 11:30 suggests, “He who wins souls is wise.”
The soul is that part of us that interacts with the world— with people and places and opportunities and obstacles…
It receives vital information from the environment around us.
But we’re not designed to be controlled by it— anymore than a thermometer is designed to control the temperature of your house (read that carefully: a thermostat sets the temperature / a thermometer just tells you what the current temperature is).
Galatians 5:25 tells us to “keep in step with the spirit” (read: not the soul).
This is a military marching term that speaks to walking in the cadence of the Kingdom…
🥾 So how do we do it?
We go back to that term INTERDEPENDENT REALIZATION…
… and we affirm that:
✅ Each of these parts of us were created by God— they’re part of a creation that was deemed “good” (see the refrain throughout Genesis 1).
✅ Each piece of the human puzzle— as is all of creation— is part of God’s current redemption project (see Acts 3:21, Isaiah 59:17-20)
✅ Everything exists in, for, and through Him (Colossians 1:16-20), including each part of who we are. To say it as Paul did, “in Him we live and move and breathe and have our being” (Acts 17:28)— spirit, soul, body… all.
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Links referenced
Take a deeper dive at the GY6 website: www.GY6.online
Access the Soul Wholeness video course = www.Jenkins.tv/SWV
Grab the digital bundle (eBook + audiobook) = www.Jenkins.tv/SW
One-to-one personal coaching = https://www.jenkins.tv/PC
Mike’s stuff
Go to www.HolosHP.com
Mike’s book + audiobook = www.HolosHP.com/SAE
See his ministry at www.JuntoTribe.com
Upcoming events
📳 The GY6 LIVE! workshop = on the events page of the GY6 site = www.GY6.online/events