In this episode, I am in conversation with boundary coach and author Kami Orange, whose book Say the Thing offers practical scripts and phrases for communicating clearly and setting boundaries with kindness.

We talk about what it really means to advocate for yourself and others, especially in moments when words feel hard to find. Kami shares how her work began, how her background shaped her relationship to boundaries, and why having language ready can be so powerful in everyday life.

This conversation is both practical and deeply reflective. We explore how boundaries intersect with grief, people pleasing, relationships, and the stories we carry from the past.

Kami Orange (she/her) is a boundary coach, author of Say The Thing, and a fat, queer, autistic, white, cis woman with over 19 years of experience helping people to set boundaries, speak up in defense of others, and say the things that need to be said. An international keynote speaker featured on BuzzFeed, Upworthy, CNN Health, television, radio, and various podcasts, she can also be found on TikTok @kami_orange, Instagram @kamiorange, Facebook https://www.facebook.com/kamiorangeboundarycoach, YouTube @kami_orange, and kamiorange.com.

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