In this episode, Danielle is joined by Karin Klein. Karin Klein has been a member of the Los Angeles Times editorial board for the past 20 years, covering education, medicine, science, and environment, and was a regular columnist for the Sacramento Bee for four years. She shared in two staff Pulitzer Prizes for coverage of breaking news and was the 2006 recipient of the Eugene C. Pulliam Fellowship for Editorial Writers, the Logan Science Writing Fellowship at Woods Hole and Arctic Alaska, and the Metcalf Institute Environmental Writing Fellowship. She also has won numerous national, regional, and local journalism awards, including the Education Writers Association award for her creation of an interactive education page for The Times.

Highlights from the episode include:

1. assessing whether college is the right fit,
2. the cost of higher education and the epidemic of college debt,
3. alternative paths to college, and
4. examples of people living fulfilling careers without degrees.

Learn more about Karin's book Rethinking College: A Guide to Thriving Without a Degree at https://www.harpercollinsfocus.com/9781400334483/rethinking-college/

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