How can AI expand access to justice for the millions who can’t afford a lawyer? In this episode, hosts Jen Leonard and Bridget McCormack speak with Sateesh Nori and Tom Martin about AI tools reshaping legal help, including Depositron for security deposit disputes and Law Answers AI for jurisdiction-specific guidance.

They discuss Sateesh’s journey from housing court to AI innovation, Tom’s work building scalable solutions for the public, and the profession’s ongoing debate over “second-tier justice.” What emerges is a compelling vision for AI as a bridge—not a barrier—to legal help.

Topics:

• How AI is transforming access to justice

• Why the legal system leaves most people without help

• The creation of Depositron and LawAnswers AI

• “Second-tier justice” vs. real-world legal outcomes

• Moonshot visions for AI-enabled legal service delivery

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Is AI making legal writing too easy—and too cheap? In this episode, Jen Leonard and Bridget McCormack explore how generative AI tools are reshaping writing as a professional skill. They discuss the paper “Making Talk Cheap,” which argues that when anyone can generate polished text, writing loses its value as a signal of skill, effort, or merit. What does this mean for hiring, advancement, and lawyering in the AI era? Plus, they unpack a new Wharton study showing how enterprise AI use is soaring—with real ROI—while sharing personal stories of AI’s practical impact.

Topics Covered:

• Wharton’s 2025 report on enterprise AI adoption and ROI (vs. the “failed pilots” narrative)
• How generative AI is leveling the playing field in writing quality
• The Making Talk Cheap study on devalued written work and hiring signals
• Implications for legal hiring, promotion, and skill development in the AI era

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Can AI make the nation’s largest trial court more accessible, trusted, and just? In this episode, LA Superior Court CEO, David Slayton joins hosts Jen Leonard and Bridget Mary McCormack to unpack how generative AI is already reshaping court services—and why “effective” beats “efficient.”

We explore Court Help on LACourt.gov, change-management tactics that stick, and the delicate balance between moving too slowly (and getting overwhelmed) and too fast (and losing public trust). Practical, candid, and grounded in real operations, this conversation offers a roadmap for legal leaders navigating AI.

Topics covered:

• Court Help and responsible gen-AI design
• Serving self-represented litigants at scale
• Change management in high-trust institutions
• Risks of moving too slow—or too fast—on AI
• Predictive analytics, triage, and future workflows

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