This week, Seb and Verity welcome the brilliant and utterly charming Baroness Thangam Debbonaire - cellist, former MP, and now fully-fledged member of the House of Lords.

With such a huge understanding and love of the arts - Thangam was shadow secretary for culture, media and sport, this was a throughly enjoyable and insightful chat including;

• Swapping Parliament for the Lords
• Thangam’s memories of music school in the 1980’s - both the brilliant education and a much darker underside
• How the arts can keep pace with AI and harness the positive elements
• The importance of music as a way of processing grief
• Crafting the perfect running playlist - this is next level curation!
• How arts organisations can make a real noise in politic

Thangam brings a rare and beautiful mix of musical soul and political nous to this episode and we loved having her. She is an incredibly positive person with a clear vision on ways to support and maintain/grow the arts - what a huge asset she is to the House of Lords!

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