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#003: Going Light with Joe Hollier – Why the Light Phone Founder Ditched His Smartphone for Privacy & Peace of Mind

#003: Going Light with Joe Hollier – Why the Light Phone Founder Ditched His Smartphone for Privacy & Peace of Mind

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 What if the solution to tech burnout… is using your phone less?In this episode, Siara sits down with Joe Hollier, co-founder of the Light Phone — a minimalist phone designed to be used as little as possible. They unpack the addictive nature of smartphones, the dark reality of the data economy, and why stepping away from the internet might actually bring us closer to ourselves.Joe shares what it’s like to live without a smartphone for over six years, how his design roots led him to rethink tech from the ground up, and why digital disconnection doesn’t mean opting out of modern life — it means reclaiming it.The conversation moves from AI and Big Tech ethics to the quiet rebellion of turning your phone into a tool, not a trap.Key topics include:Why “dumb phones” are smarter than you thinkWhat it's really like to give up your smartphone (and how it changed Joe’s life)The business model behind smartphone addiction — and who profits from your attentionHow the Light Phone is quietly building a counterculture of intentional livingWhy your data is the real currency of free apps — and how Light Phone avoids third-party surveillanceThe rise of minimalist tech and its growing appeal among kids, creatives, and schoolsWhy Kendrick Lamar’s pgLang partnered with Light Phone — and what it says about culture’s shift away from always-on livingWatch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LogoutPodSubscribe to our weekly newsletter, The Log Out Report: https://www.logoutpod.com/subscribe-log-out-reportFind Joe online:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-hollierJoe's Website: http://www.joehollier.com/Light Phone: https://www.thelightphone.com/ Get the book: https://www.amazon.com/Snake-Oil-Artificial-Intelligence-Difference/dp/069124913X?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&gQT=2Find Siara on social:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/siara-singletonInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/logoutwithsiaraFollow Log Out:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/log-out-report/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/logoutpod/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@logoutpodcast?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcBluesky: https://www.tiktok.com/@logoutpodcast?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcTwitter: https://x.com/logoutpodThreads: https://www.threads.net/@logoutpodMastodon: LogoutpodOther ways to Listen:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/log-out/id1768630796Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/b3c258c5-cd4d-4ac3-92cd-de98c9fb359a/log-outWatch the trailer: YouTube LinkVisit our website: logoutpod.com
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