What if the conversations you’re avoiding are the very ones that could change your day, your life, or someone else’s?

In this warm and insightful conversation, Kerrie sits down with behavioural scientist Nicholas Epley to explore the surprising science behind talking to strangers and why we so often get it wrong.

From a quiet train carriage in Chicago to life-changing family decisions, Nick shares how his research and his own lived experience reveals a powerful truth: we consistently underestimate how meaningful connection can be.

Together, they explore:

• ​Why we hesitate to reach out (and what’s really happening in our brains)
• ​The concept of data-driven courage
• ​How small moments of connection create unexpected happiness, health and belonging
• ​The surprising gap between what we expect and what actually happens
• ​How habits - not just knowledge - transform our relationships

You’ll also hear deeply personal stories - including the journey that led Nick and his family to adopt their daughter Lindsay and how connection shaped that decision in profound ways.

This episode is both practical and deeply moving; a reminder that even the smallest act of reaching out can ripple further than we ever imagine

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ResearchGate: ⁠https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Nicholas-Epley-2

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