There's a particular weight to the moment you realise you've been distracting yourself from your own head — filling every gap with plans and people and things to do, just to avoid sitting in the quiet with yourself. If that sounds familiar, this conversation was made for you.

Jonnie Godfrey has known Daisy for twenty years. She's a psychotherapist, a coach, and a mother who raised two remarkable children largely on her own - but what makes her worth listening to isn't her credentials. It's that she grew up without her father, went to boarding school at nine, spent nine months travelling solo across Africa before anyone thought that was remarkable, and learned - slowly, imperfectly - that every truly awful thing in her life eventually gave her something back.

In this conversation, Jonnie and Daisy talk about what it really means to grow up without a parent, how anxious attachment shapes the way we love and the way we run, and the strange relief that comes from accepting that it's actually your job to get things wrong. They talk about boredom, stillness, the gift inside loss, and why the best piece of wisdom Jonnie ever received was the quietest: be still, and know there is peace within you.

Jonnie is the kind of person you want to have known for twenty years. The Daisy Chain is lucky to have her in the chain.

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In this episode we discuss:

• Growing up without a parent
• Boarding school and feeling set apart
• Anxious attachment and how it shapes the way we love
• What distraction is really hiding
• The gift inside heartbreak and loss
• Parenting without a map
• Why it's our job to get it wrong
• Finding stillness
• Intergenerational wisdom

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What found us- Links & Mentions

Daisy:

• Tomorrow, Tomorrow and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin
• Sky above Clouds IV by Georgia O'Keefe

Jonnie:

•  Continuum Concept by Dr. Jean Leadoff
• The Family Bed by Tine Thevenin
• The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran

Guest: Jonnie Godfrey

The Daisy Chain is a weekly podcast where every week, someone who's already been where you are passes down four pearls of wisdom to those of us still finding our way.

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