The world feels pretty chaotic right now — and if you're someone who prides yourself on high performance, that chaos can quietly push you toward burnout before you even see it coming.

In this episode, I sit down with mental fitness and leadership specialist Joel Pilgrim to talk about what it actually means to stay well when everything around you feels uncertain.

In this episode we cover:

• Why mental fitness is just like physical fitness — and what your daily practice should look like
• The 5-step model for performing under pressure without burning out
• What recovery actually looks like for high achievers (and why it's not self-care)
• How to find your flow state and why it matters more than you think
• Why vulnerability is a leadership skill, not a weakness

TW: Suicide

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