Awakening Can’t Be Understood — It Has to Be Entered (with Matthias Grusz)
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Awakening Can’t Be Understood — It Has to Be Entered (with Matthias Grusz)
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About this listen
Some truths can’t be explained.
They can only be entered.
In this episode of Awaken with Ryan DeJonghe, Ryan is joined by Matthias Grusz for a slow, grounded conversation about why awakening so often begins — and then slips away.
Not because people aren’t sincere.
Not because they’re doing it wrong.
But because insight alone isn’t enough.
Together, they explore the three essential conditions that allow awakening to stabilize in the body and in lived experience — not as a peak state, but as something sustainable and human.
This conversation isn’t about chasing realization.
It’s about what allows realization to stay.
Near the end of the episode, Matthias guides listeners through a direct experiential journey — a meditation / hypnotic process designed to move out of understanding and into felt presence.
No effort.
No striving.
No fixing.
Just an invitation to enter what the conversation has been pointing toward all along.
This episode is best experienced in a quiet space, without distraction — especially the closing journey.
Let the words do what they can.
Then let them fall away.
The final portion of this episode includes a guided experiential process. Please listen in a safe, quiet environment and avoid driving or multitasking.