In this heartfelt and thought-provoking episode, I sit down with Travis to unpack some of the tougher moments life has thrown his way, focusing on rejection in the workplace, the importance of resilience, and the complex realities of representation. Here are three truly compelling topics we explored:

1. Discrimination & Bias in Job Interviews Travis shares a formative story about a job interview that went awry, not due to his experience or suitability, but because the interviewer was fixated on his appearance – namely, his earrings. This moment not only knocked his confidence but also planted seeds of self-doubt, forcing him to question whether underlying prejudices might have been at play. We delve into how both subtle and overt forms of bias can derail opportunities, and how to navigate the fallout when it occurs.

2. Navigating Rejection & Building Resilience We dive into how Travis used moments of professional rejection as fuel for growth rather than defeat. Instead of letting disappointment define him, he chose to “prove them wrong,” developing career direction, self-assurance, and a mindset that has served him well ever since. The conversation looks at how healthy support systems (like family) and self-reflection turn an ‘L’ into long-term resilience.

3. Representation: Parenting & Preparing the Next Generation As fathers of mixed-race children, Travis and I discuss the extra layers to parenting that come with navigating society’s perceptions and prejudices. From having honest conversations about race and difference to prepping our kids for the inevitable moments when they’re “the one that stands out,” we touch on the heartache and responsibility of making space for these truths – and share candid stories about why it matters for their confidence and well-being.

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Questions for You:

1. Have you ever felt your appearance or background impacted an interview or opportunity, and how did you respond?

2. What strategies or support systems have helped you turn a rejection into a source of motivation, rather than defeat?

3. How do you handle conversations about race, representation, or identity within your own family or community?

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