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The Edu Salon

The Edu Salon

By: with Deborah Netolicky
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Summary
 The Edu Salon podcast is a space for connection and conversation around education. Each episode, Dr Deborah Netolicky talks with a global education thought leader to provide insights into where education is now and where it might move next. Like the French salons of the 18th century, this podcast is a place for a diverse range of voices to explore ideas and generate discussion in order to change the world for the better. It has at its heart a focus on humanity, equity, democracy, and the experiences of young people. Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Soundcloud, Amazon Music and Audible. Join the conversation on Instagram @theedusalon and by connecting with Deb on LinkedIn.All rights reserved
Episodes
  • David Gurr on the work of school leadership

    David Gurr on the work of school leadership
    Oct 31 2026
    Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor David Gurr about the difference between successful and merely effective schools, the complex and context-responsive work of school leadership, and how leaders build the cultures, capacity and conditions that sustain achievement and wellbeing. They discuss intelligent compassion, collective leadership, and what more than two decades of international research has revealed about successful school principals. David is Professor of Educational Leadership at the University of Melbourne. Across a career spanning more than four decades, he has worked as a secondary teacher, school counsellor, middle leader and academic. He is a founding member and leader of the International Successful School Principalship Project, and his research focuses particularly on successful school leadership and middle leadership. David is co-editor, with Christopher Day, of 'How Successful Schools Are More than Effective: Principals Who Build and Sustain Teacher and Student Wellbeing and Achievement'. A former Vice-President of the Australian Council for Educational Leaders, he received the ACEL Gold Medal in 2014. Want to know more? - https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/profile/763-david-gurr - https://www.ucl.ac.uk/ioe/research-projects/2001/jan/international-successful-school-principalship-project-isspp - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Instagram
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    46 mins
  • Selena Fisk on using data to make better decisions

    Selena Fisk on using data to make better decisions
    Oct 3 2026
    Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Selena Fisk about how, why, and when to use data in schools, trends versus insights, the importance of curiosity and collaboration, and the role of generative ai in data analysis. Selena is a data storyteller who helps educators turn numbers into meaningful narratives that drive positive change. With 16 years of teaching experience in Australia and the UK, she works with educators and school leaders to build data-informed cultures. She is the author of four books and the host of the Make Data Talk podcast. Want to know more? - selenafisk.com - Make Data Talk podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Vyo8Po9KQrNjkoAwJwxDn - Selena: @selenafisk on Instagram - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Instagram
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    43 mins
  • Shanti Clements on student voice, shared stewardship and leadership maturity

    Shanti Clements on student voice, shared stewardship and leadership maturity
    Sep 5 2026
    Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Shanti Clements about what it means to cultivate leadership as a shared, reflective practice across a school. From students contributing to strategic planning, conducting learning walks and leading Wellbeing Wednesdays, to the 7 Habits, 'Leader in Me', and community consultation, Shanti shares structures that turn voice and agency into genuine shared stewardship. They also discuss how the Leadership Maturity Framework and reflective supervision can support more self-aware, self-regulating and intentional leadership. This episode includes some school background noise at times. Shanti is currently Principal at Seven Hills West Public School, Associate Professor of Education at Excelsia University and Leadership Wellness Coach. Across her career, she has additionally served as Principal of Beauty Point Public School, as well as in various roles with the NSW Department of Education, and as lecturer at University of Sydney and Liverpool Hope University. Shanti has designed and facilitated leadership programs, talent-development pathways and accreditation programs for aspiring leaders, principals and senior executives across New South Wales, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Her contributions to education have been recognised through a National Excellence in Teaching Award and an Australian Schools Plus and Commonwealth Bank Teaching Award. Want to know more? - https://sevenhillw-p.schools.nsw.gov.au/about-us/our-principal-and-staff - Shanti: @shanticlements on Instagram - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Instagram
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    45 mins
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