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The Edu Salon

The Edu Salon

By: with Deborah Netolicky
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The Edu Salon podcast is a space for connection and conversation around education. Each episode, Dr Deborah Netolicky talks with a global education thought leader to provide insights into where education is now and where it might move next. Like the French salons of the 18th century, this podcast is a place for a diverse range of voices to explore ideas and generate discussion in order to change the world for the better. It has at its heart a focus on humanity, equity, democracy, and the experiences of young people. Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Soundcloud, Amazon Music and Audible. Join the conversation on Instagram @theedusalon and by connecting with Deb on LinkedIn.All rights reserved
Episodes
  • Haili Hughes on teacher development, wellbeing and retention

    Haili Hughes on teacher development, wellbeing and retention
    Aug 1 2026
    Deborah Netolicky talks with Associate Professor Haili Hughes about what it takes to build and sustain a flourishing teaching profession. Together they explore teaching, teacher development, mentoring, instructional coaching, teacher wellbeing and retention. Haili is Associate Professor of Educational Innovation and Impact at La Trobe University in Melbourne. Before moving to Australia, she spent more than two decades in schools and education leadership in England, including as a school leader and the UK's only professor working within a multi-academy trust. She has held senior roles in education organisations focused on teacher development and professional learning at scale, has advised the UK Department for Education on initial teacher training and mentoring, serves as an elected Councillor of the Chartered College of Teaching, and is a Commissioner with the Teaching Commission. She is the author of ten books on mentoring, teacher development, wellbeing and professional practice, including Mentoring in Schools, Humans in the Classroom, How to Survive in Teaching and The Teacher's Guide to Research. Content note: This conversation includes discussion of teacher burnout, mental health and suicidal ideation. Want to know more? - https://hailihughes.substack.com/ - Haili:@HughesHaili on Twitter and @no_wire_hangers1 on Instagram - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Instagram
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    47 mins
  • José Bowen on how AI is transforming education and life

    José Bowen on how AI is transforming education and life
    Jul 4 2026
    Deborah Netolicky talks with José Bowen about the inevitability of AI in education and in life. They discuss where AI is already transforming schools, universities, work and everyday life; where it can enhance learning and productivity; where caution is needed; when we should outsource thinking to machines and when we should resist doing so; and why the serendipity and randomness of human encounters remain central to learning and creativity. José has been leading innovation and change for over 45 years at Stanford, Georgetown and the University of Southampton (UK), as a dean at Miami University and SMU and as President of Goucher College. He worked as a musician with Stan Getz, Dave Brubeck, and many others and his symphony was nominated for the Pulitzer Prize in Music (1985). His books include ‘ Teaching Naked’, ‘Teaching Change: How to Develop Independent Thinkers using Relationships, Resilience and Reflection’, and ‘Teaching with AI: A Practical Guide to a New Era of Human Learning’ with C. Edward Watson. Want to know more? - weteachwithai.com/ - josebowen.com/ - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Instagram
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    52 mins
  • Catherine Smith on care and inclusion in an age of AI

    Catherine Smith on care and inclusion in an age of AI
    Jun 6 2026
    Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Catherine Smith about care and inclusion in an age of AI. Catherine is a Senior Lecturer in the Faculty of Education at the University of Melbourne. Her work sits at the intersection of wellbeing, inclusion, digital technologies and social justice in education, with a focus on how education can remain relational, ethical and deeply human in systems shaped by accountability, automation and technological change. Grounded in the ethics of care, Catherine’s research examines how schools, universities and education systems recognise or fail to recognise the relational work of teaching, learning and support. Her recent work focuses on inclusive education, disability, Individual Education Plans, student voice, AI in education and digital wellbeing. Catherine has co-authored national reports with Children and Young People with Disability Australia and teaches generative AI, wellbeing and education at Masters level. She also develops school-level AI resources, including gamified learning about innovation, trust and sustainability. Her work asks how care, accessibility and recognition can become central to learning. Want to know more? - https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/profile/664307-catherine-smith - https://cyda.org.au/educationreport/ - https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/young-people-are-using-ai-coaches%2C-but-are-they-using-the-right-ones - https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/supporting-kids-social-lives%2C-without-social-media - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Instagram
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    47 mins
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