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The Edu Salon

The Edu Salon

By: with Deborah Netolicky
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The Edu Salon podcast is a space for connection and conversation around education. Each episode, Dr Deborah Netolicky talks with a global education thought leader to provide insights into where education is now and where it might move next. Like the French salons of the 18th century, this podcast is a place for a diverse range of voices to explore ideas and generate discussion in order to change the world for the better. It has at its heart a focus on humanity, equity, democracy, and the experiences of young people. Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Soundcloud, Amazon Music and Audible. Join the conversation on Instagram @theedusalon and by connecting with Deb on LinkedIn.All rights reserved
Episodes
  • Catherine Smith on care and inclusion in an age of AI

    Catherine Smith on care and inclusion in an age of AI
    Jun 6 2026
    Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Catherine Smith about care and inclusion in an age of AI. Catherine is a Senior Lecturer in the Faculty of Education at the University of Melbourne. Her work sits at the intersection of wellbeing, inclusion, digital technologies and social justice in education, with a focus on how education can remain relational, ethical and deeply human in systems shaped by accountability, automation and technological change. Grounded in the ethics of care, Catherine’s research examines how schools, universities and education systems recognise or fail to recognise the relational work of teaching, learning and support. Her recent work focuses on inclusive education, disability, Individual Education Plans, student voice, AI in education and digital wellbeing. Catherine has co-authored national reports with Children and Young People with Disability Australia and teaches generative AI, wellbeing and education at Masters level. She also develops school-level AI resources, including gamified learning about innovation, trust and sustainability. Her work asks how care, accessibility and recognition can become central to learning. Want to know more? - https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/profile/664307-catherine-smith - https://cyda.org.au/educationreport/ - https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/young-people-are-using-ai-coaches%2C-but-are-they-using-the-right-ones - https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/supporting-kids-social-lives%2C-without-social-media - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Instagram
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    47 mins
  • Janine Stratford on school leadership and career strategy

    Janine Stratford on school leadership and career strategy
    May 2 2026
    Deborah Netolicky talks with Janine Stratford about being a relational, strategic leader in schools. Janine is a Leadership Coach, Career Strategist, Founder of her company Coaching Focus and facilitator passionate about helping educators lead with clarity, confidence, and purpose. After 28 years in schools, including as a Deputy Principal, Janine started Coaching Focus in 2015 to empower school leaders to step up, stand out, and make a lasting difference. She saw too many great educators doubting their leadership potential and wanted to change that. Janine partners with educators and leadership teams across Australia and New Zealand, providing leadership development, coaching, and coach training that inspire growth and impact. A Professional Certified Coach (PCC) and Certified Professional Behavioural Analyst, she helps leaders understand themselves and their influence so they can lead with authenticity and strategic intent. She is author of Leading for Tomorrow, Today: School Leadership with Purpose, Alignment and Lasting Impact. Want to know more? - https://coachingfocus.com.au/ - https://ambapress.com.au/collections/coming-soon/products/leading-for-tomorrow-today - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Instagram
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    47 mins
  • Jeremy Hannay on counter-cultural leadership for happy, high-performing schools

    Jeremy Hannay on counter-cultural leadership for happy, high-performing schools
    Apr 4 2026
    Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Jeremy Hannay about counter-cultural leadership, navigating the pace of change, and how to pursue happiness and high performance at the same time. Jeremy is Executive Principal of Three Bridges Primary School and Wolf Fields Primary School in Southall, London. Originally from Canada, he has spent over a decade leading in one of the world’s most high-stakes education systems while advocating for a more human, growth-centred approach to school improvement. A former Pearson National Headteacher of the Year, he speaks and writes internationally about leadership, learning and how to grow strong schools without being defined by performance-driven systems. Want to know more? - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Instagram
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    45 mins
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