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  • Summary

  • Wrestling with your conscience when you have a burger? Concerned that you should switch to almond milk lattes? Rachel Khoo is worried too. The chef and broadcaster trained in French cuisine and her career has been built on the motto: “Butter makes everything better.” But all this talk about veganism has started getting to her. Should she change her cooking, her eating and her lifestyle to stop global warming?

    Khoo meets farmers, activists, chefs and academics to ask whether beef and dairy really need to die in order for the planet to live, and whether she needs to go vegan to do her bit for the planet. She marches through the battle lines – vegan versus meat eater; plants versus cows; farmers versus the world – to sift truth from propaganda. Khoo sees big corporations pulling the strings in our global food system, which makes her wonder how responsibility for this problem has ended up in the kitchen of time-and-cash-strapped families. 

    Join this carnivore in crisis as she journeys through the facts and fury of the vegan debate.

    This is an Audible Original Podcast. Free for members. You can download all 8 episodes to your Library now.

    ©2020 Pipi Films Ltd (P)2020 Audible Australia Pty Ltd
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  • Jul 26 2020

    Cook and author Rachel Khoo’s motto is butter makes everything better. So the news that cows are destroying the planet has come as quite an affront. Rachel cares as much about a healthy environment as she does a delicious croissant. Yet suddenly she’s being asked to choose: plants or cows. To find out if a switch to veganism can really slow global warming, Rachel meets the devoted animal campaigners fueling the fight... Will they convince her to go vegan to help save the planet?

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    26 mins
  • Jul 26 2020

    Contemplating a switch to veganism Rachel Khoo asks what we risk losing if we start to reject food for the planet’s sake. What if veganism destroys more than it saves? In the Tale of Two Tables, Rachel meets a dairy farmer, a burger cook, and a Michelin-starred vegan chef who are prioritising the environment above all else.

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  • Jul 26 2020

    Chef and author Rachel Khoo remains unconvinced that embracing a vegan diet is the only way to help save the planet. So she considers the merits of sourcing one’s own meat... from the wild.

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    28 mins

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Complete waste of time

This podcast completely misrepresents the vegan v meat eater debate. Obviously there are ways of producing food that comes from plants or animals in ways that are more or less harmful to the environment. As she stated, we do not need to eat animals to be healthy. How can you justify taking the life of a sentient being out of absolutely no necessity? How can you then claim that killing an animal is ethical or moral?

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Excellent food for thought!

In the past five years, I've been vegetarian, vegan(ish), and a meat-eater. At every junction, I've tried my best to process the complicated feelings I have about the way I—and the rest of the world—consume meat and dairy, and all the things that influence our choices. This podcast interrogates every one of these influences from culture, to sustainability, to health and nutrition, to animal cruelty in a thoughtful, practical, and judgement-free way. I appreciate the care and research that went into every episode and though I still haven't decided where I land within the meat-eating debate, this podcast has reminded me why it's such a personal and incredibly complex decision. Highly recommend!

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Brilliant!

This podcast is a must for anyone that eats!! A well balanced look at meat consumption, veganism, sustainability, health and its implications for our society.

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I was expecting different

I was so excited to listen to this podcast hoping it would share some unbias science of the vegan debate, but it was a lot of people's opinions. the performance was fine, it dragged a bit sometimes, and often it would pause for that but too long where you check your phone to see if the app is even working still. Not my favourite, but I finished hoping it would give me some deeper insights, but really just kind of covered off all the opinions and things you'd know already if you were interested in this topic. Might be interesting for people who are new to the debate. Just for me, personally, I was wishing for a little more to chew on.

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Loved This!!

Absolutely enjoyed this! It was so informative and it really gave a fair all round view of the issue. I liked that it explored all sides of the argument. I learnt alot and have started applying some of what I learnt from this, in my own life. I'd love to hear a second season expanding even further!

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Essential listening.

An intelligent, thought-provoking and comprehensively researched podcast which prompts us to start a conversation about not only our food choices, but how food is produced. In an unbiased way, it reminds us that land stewardship is our collective responsibility and that all life forms have a role to play in order for our ecosystems to thrive. It is informative, challenging and objective - essential listening.

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Balanced exploration of a tough topic

A really great Beginning to more targeted research. Trying to find balance can be hard but as usual there are no absolute truths.

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A current dilemma discussed from both sides

A really engaging topic, with no easy answers and no judgement, although all agree people can change big corporations by voting with their wallets. recommend.

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Omnivorous

Very easy to listen to. Really made me think about where I stand on this issue.

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Omnivore is not Carnivore

So many issues with the way it was presented... it had vegan bias disguised as neutral, could have gone way more into the actual facts of Carnivore and done some personal research not just believe what the vegan people said.

It had so much potential but missed the target by a long way... Everything was based on the methane gas 'fact', but it's unsustainable farming that is the problem!

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  • mb
  • 04-11-2021

Vegetarian propaganda

This is a vegetarian propaganda podcast in disguise, sneakily, under the disguise of objectivity, trying to promote the idea that eating meat is bad for the planet. Nothing is further from truth.
Animals coevolved with humans and in agriculture they regenerate the soil. Cattle is carbon negative, if grass fed.
Regardless, meat is the most nutrient dense superfood there is and the one we evolved to eat.
Read Weston A. Price’s groundbreaking book, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, to see how traditional humans ate and how healthy this food made them, and what happened if they started incorporating the food of modern commerce. Read Stefensson’s Not by Bread Alone ( The Fat of the Land) to see that a person can be healthy and well on meat and fat alone, moreover, cure from ailments that way. Please educate yourself and don’t give up to the vegetarian propaganda!

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  • 30-08-2021

Educate yourself and grow

This podcast is a great way of educating yourself about the pros and cons of agriculture and the meat industry. It's presented in a simple, unbiased way that gives everyone (carnivores and vegans) a chance to present their way of living and eating. By doing so it allows you to choose your path and learn that not everything (including food) is black and white. Thank you, Rachel!

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  • John Hizer
  • 11-05-2021

Really prompted discussion

This was even better than I hoped it would be. They presented all sides of the argument equally but without being preachy. It went a lot deeper than "is killing animals bad?" or "are you helping save the planet?" It answered some questions I have and left me with new questions and things to look into. It wrapped up without telling you what the right answer is, leaving space for each person to choose for themselves.

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  • 30-07-2020

Thought provoking

interesting to hear the different views from all sides. Personally I think we need to simplify our existence on this planet on the whole. Money rules the world unfortunately and it wont be easy. We are just one animal out of billions of organisms on this planet, yet we are the most destructive of all. Something makes me think we are deluded calling others vermin or plagues when we ourselves should have those titles. Nature works in cycles and one day she will get us back epicly, that is excluding the natural disasters etc she's thrown at us so far.

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  • David J James
  • 18-08-2020

There was some interesting information

but a lot of the best arguments countering the assertions of veganism were not even touched upon. I would describe it as a half-baked apologia pro vita suidae.

A lot of the reports were anecdotal, boring and repetitive and the signal to noise ratio could have been significantly improved.

We never really got to the bottom of why monocropping wheat is bad for the natural environment. How wheat itself has turned into a harmful thing. The value of Keto, the difficulty of doing keto on a vegan diet. The problem of essential amino acids. The impossibility of doing organic farming without animals as artificial fertilisers are essential. The need for low tillage, more earthworms, proper dressings, lower agrochemicals, better cover crops and management, the economic issues over the rigid doctrinaire approach of organic and how something called biological farming developed by someone called Gary Zimmer in America is the likely thought leader going forward to give us the 80:20 middle ground and not some unknown New Zealander who is going to write a book but has never actually read one, by his own admission.

Yes, there were some good bits, but I was hoping it was going to be the carnivorous raptor act that doctrinal Veganism richly deserves. It wasn't.

Neither did it address much the issue that if we are going to be using biomass for ethanol there really isn't space to make food for 10 billion people whichever way, and if we make food for 10 billion, then when the famine hits at 15 billion will the Vegans want to take responsibility for 10 billion starvation deaths?

There are plenty more themes this could have explored. It needed to get into debate and not have everyone pretending to be at some vague consensus.

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  • Nuno Pinheiro
  • 15-08-2020

Quite Biased

At least until episode 3, the podcast is quite biased towards justifying meat eating. In some points there is a debate and shows opinions on both sides, but justifying meat eating takes most of the time. In a full episode about hunting only hunters are heard, and there is only a brief mention of how hunting is not a scalable solution for the society as a whole

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  • Anupadin
  • 08-08-2020

Very Thought Provoking

As a Vegan I thought I had all the answers but Rachel raises a number of alternative answers to the eco-disaster that is the meal and dairy industry. Whether you are vegan, vegetarian, omni or just plain carnivorous, you'll benefit from listening to this thought provoking blog.

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  • Jane Law
  • 07-08-2020

so worth hearing

Open-minded, well researched, so interesting, so much more to think about than we hear from the loudest voices. As a doctor I have seen too many unwell vegans, but as someone who has cared about the environment for 50 years(yes there are many of us older people who have!) I am very concerned about animal husbandry and food miles, the latter being a big issue even for virtuous vegans. Rachel Khoo is very personable, a great interviewer and presenter, able to voice certainly my dilemmas on this subject, and I was also influenced by a wonderful grandma! I especially loved the Maori farmer.

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